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Visa Rules revisited
A couple of weeks ago I posted a translation of the new visa rules. Today the JoongAng Daily has the lowdown on the official regulations coming from immigration. I’ve posted the entire article in the extended section but have choice quotes right here.
Spurred by the arrest on child molestation charges of a Canadian who taught here, the Justice Ministry has announced that starting in less than two weeks foreigners who teach English will be required to provide their criminal record and undergo a medical checkup to renew or receive a visa.
Said pedophile did not have a criminal record and was apparently on a different visa (E7 or E1) than the one these rules affect (E2).
the new requirements will force English teachers to return to their home country to get the criminal record check. Many embassies here have already announced they cannot or will not conduct such a service
When has an embassy ever been there to help it’s citizens. But really why does the Korean government expect foreign embassies to help enforce Korean laws?
In addition, people who are found to have committed a felony, have drugs in their system, a dangerous infectious disease, such as HIV, or a drug or alcohol addiction will have their visa canceled, the Justice Ministry said in a release.
To clear up some of the confusion about the new regulations, which will take effect Dec. 15, the Justice Ministry and language schools in Seoul plan to hold a meeting tomorrow to discuss the changes in detail.
Why not include foreign teachers. What felonies? Not every crime is exactly the same in different countries.
The new rules here will also require new applicants for an English teaching visa, called an E-2 visa, to undergo an interview at the Korean consulate closest to the town in which they live, the Justice Ministry announced.
Yeah so now if you don’t live in a city with a Korean consulate you need to fly there stay in a hotel and pay for food at restaurants. All this to make us$2000 a month? good luck in getting anyone to come to Korea.
English teachers are required to leave the country for their annual visa renewal.
In the past you only needed to leave if you were changing jobs. So now you have to leave to stay at the same job. Yeah, another major expense. What is the government in collusion with the airline industry or something?
According to the new rules, however, any teacher hired by the Education Ministry who is already employed can skip the criminal record check, according to the release.
good news if you already work at a public school, but you will still have to leave the country to renew your visa.
update
The Marmot has picked up this story and the comment section is busy as usual.
This is one big cluster fuck. Could the government possibly add any more unnecessary red tape? Below is the whole article.
Spurred by the arrest on child molestation charges of a Canadian who taught here, the Justice Ministry has announced that starting in less than two weeks foreigners who teach English will be required to provide their criminal record and undergo a medical checkup to renew or receive a visa.
In many cases, the new requirements will force English teachers to return to their home country to get the criminal record check. Many embassies here have already announced they cannot or will not conduct such a service.
In addition, even if the applicant submits a criminal record, it may not be accurate.
In the United States, for example, criminal records are compiled and maintained on the local, state and federal levels. Therefore, a person could commit a crime in one area, then move to another area. The criminal record check from the second area would not reveal the crime in the first area.
The changes have frustrated English teachers, who point out that only a few of them have committed crimes. Some have suggested the new rules could lead to a shortfall in the number of teachers here.
“I don’t have any problem with the changed regulations, if the ministry arranges the procedures with the embassies here so that we could follow the regulations more timely and efficiently,” said Frances Lucas Murray, an English teacher from Australia. “Otherwise, there could be a shortage of foreign language teachers.”
In addition, people who are found to have committed a felony, have drugs in their system, a dangerous infectious disease, such as HIV, or a drug or alcohol addiction will have their visa canceled, the Justice Ministry said in a release.
To clear up some of the confusion about the new regulations, which will take effect Dec. 15, the Justice Ministry and language schools in Seoul plan to hold a meeting tomorrow to discuss the changes in detail.
The Justice Ministry announced the rules in October, not long after the arrest of an alleged pedophile, Christopher Paul Neil, who taught English in Korea for a total of about four years, as well as in other countries. Neil is not charged with committing any crimes in Korea.
The new rules here will also require new applicants for an English teaching visa, called an E-2 visa, to undergo an interview at the Korean consulate closest to the town in which they live, the Justice Ministry announced.
English teachers are required to leave the country for their annual visa renewal. According to a press release the ministry issued on Friday, people who hold an E-2 visa will still be able to apply for the renewal at Korean consulates in a nearby third country, such as Japan or China.
Kim Soo-nam, deputy director at the Justice Ministry’s Korean Immigration Service, said the ministry would accept a criminal history report issued by foreign embassies here for the applicant.
However, Kim added that so far, none of the embassies here have agreed to provide the service.
“The U.S. Embassy said it will not provide the service, as has the Canadian Embassy,” Kim said.
Indeed, the U.S. Embassy confirmed in a recent newsletter to its citizens that “the U.S. Embassy cannot provide a background check or fingerprinting service, and we cannot verify the authenticity of background checks or diplomas.”
Kim said a criminal record check could be obtained from a local police department in the United States. How-ever, such a list would only contain crimes on the local level that were committed in that area.
Any federal or state crimes, along with crimes committed outside of that area, would not show up on such a record check.
“The principle is that the applicant should go back to his or her country and get a report from the police there,” Kim said.
Angela Trott, consul at the British Embassy in Seoul, also said at Friday’s Seoul Town Meeting: “We have been receiving questions from people who plan to come to Korea. They are concerned and confused about the new visa regulations. But we have not been briefed by the Justice Ministry.”
Frances Lucas Murray, the English teacher from Australia, said he is going home on vacation in January and plans to get the criminal background check while he’s there. His E-2 visa with the Chungcheongnamdo Seocheon Office of Education expires in March of next year.
According to the new rules, however, any teacher hired by the Education Ministry who is already employed can skip the criminal record check, according to the release. That would apply to Murray, which is something he said he didn’t know. He said it could take him up to six weeks to get the record.
At least one foreign language school said it welcomes the new rules, as they may help improve the reputation of English teachers, which gets hurt based on just a handful of highly publicized incidents.
“We welcome the changed regulations,” said Yoon Ji-young, head of the instructor support team at Pagoda Academy Inc., a private language school in Seoul. “But we are still unsure about some of the procedures involved in conforming to the regulations.”
Teachers have complained about the additional expense of traveling home to get the police check, when in the past a short trip to Japan or Hong Kong was enough for a visa renewal.
In Canada, a person can get fingerprinted here and then send them back to get their criminal record, according to the Web site of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
“Although it will take several more weeks to hire teachers under the changed regulations, I think the new regulations will help screen out unqualified teachers,” Yoon said.
With regard to the medical check, an applicant will be required to submit a self-completed form indicating his or her medical history.
Once arriving here, according to the release, the applicants need to go through a mandatory health check, including blood and drug tests, at a clinic or hospital designated by each school or education office.
Sean. inscribed these words of wisdom on Monday Dec 3, 2007 at 08:27 AM
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JMac wrote 22 words on Monday Dec 3, 2007 at 10:44 AM
Looks like fun all-round. It’s going to be interesting to see how this gets settled (when the smoke clears, that is).
-JMac
Jérôme Carujo wrote 58 words on Monday Dec 3, 2007 at 05:28 PM
Well, when I went to teach in the US, the US governement did ask me to provide a copy of my (non-existent) criminal record.
It is quite funny now to see that English teachers in Korea are outraged that Korea is asking the very same thing.
I guess it’s a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Jérôme Carujo wrote 19 words on Monday Dec 3, 2007 at 05:29 PM
BTW, is missing in your poll “Out of Korea and still planning to come”
Which would be my answer
Sean. wrote 154 words on Monday Dec 3, 2007 at 05:56 PM
Jerome,
It’s more about the poorly thought out knee jerk reactionism than the criminal record check. Also the Korean government in their infinite wisdom has decided that all criminal record checks are done in the same way in every country. No thought has been put into the fact that checks in Canada and the U.S. will take up to six months.
Additionally the added inconvenience of visiting the consolate nearest you for an interview is ridiculous. Teachers are expected to fly to a city with a consolate for an interview that is how long and most likely conducted by an official with no interest or real knowledge of what is supposed to happen. And yes the teacher will then have to pay for the flight, hotel and food for this interview. All this in order to get a job that pays us$2000 a month. Hardly worth it.
Modified the poll as per your suggestion.
PH wrote 10 words on Monday Dec 3, 2007 at 09:03 PM
how about “getting married asap to avoid all this crap”
Sean. wrote 48 words on Monday Dec 3, 2007 at 10:03 PM
I’m already married to Korean and have an F5 visa. However several friends and fantastic teaching colleagues do not have that visa nor do they wish to get married. These new regulations may end up forcing my friends out of the country due to too much red tape.
Cloying_odor wrote 61 words on Tuesday Dec 4, 2007 at 07:52 AM
It would be nice if the Koreans actually policed themselves. Here we are in the land of serial rapists and incestious pedophila and they are worried about some ‘evil’ waeguks. The US, Canada and everyone else who has Korean teachers visiting should impliment the exact same set of requirements as well… we will see how long this bigotted racist hypocrysy lasts.
Jonathon wrote 81 words on Wednesday Dec 5, 2007 at 06:40 PM
the problem isn’t that they are requiring the background checks (because i too had to submit to a background check to get a certification to teach in the USA)...but the problem is that the only way to get that background check is to go back home…which could take several months…and then this has to be done every year? if the embassies were willing to process the background checks that would be one thing…but since they are not…we are left without options…
Gruntled wrote 144 words on Thursday Dec 6, 2007 at 04:45 PM
So we fly out first to get the medical check and if we fail I guess we pay to go home. I don’t mind the criminal check or the drug test but who pays??? Standard practice these days anyway although most companies pay for it. I do mind having to get a HIV test as, call me selfish, I just don’t want to know. It scares me.
The whole tone of the thing is off too. These people are pretty racist as we all know - but this is taking it too far. Apparently we’re all sex crazed, alcoholic, diseased, drug users. As opposed to prostitute crazed, soju mad, diseased (lot of ‘the Hep’ here), ‘users’.
I see they’re changing things so we can get farmed out if there’s a shortage. Who gets paid for that??? I’m not a commodity I’m a fucking person.
Katie wrote 167 words on Friday Dec 7, 2007 at 05:48 AM
Yikes. I have twice had to get the no-criminal-record report from the US while abroad, and without going into a specific detail, it is just a bunch of bureaucracy. The steps you need to take to get it are a hassle, and yet for someone who wanted to un-ethically find a way around it, they probably could. Theoretically, there is nothing about the US one that absolutely precludes getting it without returning to the country - it’s just difficult to do what you need to do from abroad (at least when I got mine).
In my case, I learned that while US embassies used to provide fingerprinting services for a fee, they stopped.
As I understood in my case at least, if I got a no-criminal-record certificate for country x, and then continued residing in country X, the second time around country x would only need to check its own records. I don’t really know if this applies to Korea, but it sure sounds like a mess.
Sean. wrote 22 words on Friday Dec 7, 2007 at 06:05 AM
I stand by my assesment above that this is one big CLUSTERFUCK. Anyhow, still waiting for an official English announcement from immigration.
Alex Case wrote 61 words on Saturday Dec 8, 2007 at 10:41 PM
They tried stuff like this (but never quite this bad) in Turkey every year while I was there, and every year they had to back off because they realised they couldn’t afford to lose all their English teachers and they didn’t have time to do all the paperwork. Hope it works out the same for you all in Korea.
TEFLtastic blog
JMac wrote 88 words on Sunday Dec 9, 2007 at 09:51 AM
One of the universities down here is taking pretty much their entire non-F series teachers to the immigration office on the 14th. Should be interesting to see what happens. Initial reports indicated that renewing teachers don’t/wouldn’t need criminal checks, etc., but after discusssion with the Gwangju Immigration office, it was determined that the new regs are indeed going into effect in about a week.
I have one co-worker that is trying to get in under the wire as well. Hope things work out.
Anyone have similar stories?
-JMac
Sean. wrote 47 words on Sunday Dec 9, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Alex,
thanks for your comment. Anyhow I’m expecting things to lighten up, slightly, once language schools, public schools, and universities start complaining about a lack of teachers. Either that or they will have to raise salaries to attract teachers.
JMac - care to guest blog what happens?